StarWatcher (starwatcher307) wrote in mozilla,

Help with new Mozilla?

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I needed a new school program that requires IE, which I long ago took off my computer. The school IT guy said he'd put it on. To do so, he took Mozilla OFF!

When I demanded that it be replaced, he could only download 3.5.3. I had not upgraded from 2.something; I was quite happy with that version. Now, I'm going crazy. Right now, two specific problems.

The biggie is my menu bar. In Mozilla 2-whatever, the URLs I loaded stayed in the same place all the time. If I loaded in a certain order, I knew to look for personal stuff at the top, fanfiction in the middle, and business stuff at the bottom.

Now, my menu bar seems to have no rhyme or reason. It doesn't leave my URLs in one place. But it also does not move most-recently-used to the top, as IE does/used to. (Haven't used it in two years; not sure what it does now.) Nor does it align the URLs in alphabetical order.

In other words, when I look for a URL, I have no idea where it will be in the list, which is a great time-waster. Is there any way I can stabilize this? URLs staying where I put them is my preference, but alphabetical would be acceptable.


Second problem, not so big, but irritating. At the right edge of the toolbar is a window that shows various search engines. I don't want it. I was able to delete all the search engines except Wikipedia; it won't go. I managed to move the separation line over until the search window is very small, but I would like it gone. Under 'Customize Toolbar', it says 'You can add or remove items by dragging to or from the toolbars'. But it won't let me remove that search window, or the 'home' icon, which I also don't want.

Can anyone help? Thanks so much.

(PS if there's a way to take off 3.5.3 and put back 2.anything, I'd really appreciate some directions. Thanks again.)
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compscilin

September 19 2009, 02:28:39 UTC 4 years ago

Sounds like a fail on your school IT guy's part. Givin' IT folks a bad name, he is...

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html has 3.0.14. For security and stability, getting to 3.something is best.

Which menu bar are you talking about? There are several bars-- do you mean the Bookmarks menu, or the bookmarks toolbar?

Or maybe you mean the location bar? Big changes in FF 3.x. Search for "awesomebar" and you'll find various extensions designed to return its functionality to the way it was in 2.x.

To remove items from the toolbar, it seems like you have to drag them to the window that pops up--not just off the toolbar.

starwatcher307

September 19 2009, 02:49:32 UTC 4 years ago Edited:  September 19 2009, 02:51:36 UTC

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Thanks for the quick reply. However, I don't quite speak the lingo.

Here's what I see when I look at the top of the page:

Header - the Mozilla symbol and title of this site.

Under that: the word-links File, Edit, View, History, Bookmarks, Tools, Help.

Under that, 'go back' arrow, 'go forward' arrow, 'reload' arrow, 'X' (to stop), a little house, the URL bar, and the tiny search window.

Search for "awesomebar"

Where/how? I can use what's available, but I'm *very* shaky about modifying/changing things. Like adding extensions -- I added none to my other browser; I automatically expect it to go wrong.

you have to drag them to the window that pops up

How do I make a window pop up? Mozilla automatically blocks popups.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html has 3.0.14.

Thanks. But, I'm leery. [a] The site says it'll be "maintained with security and stability updates until January 2010." What happens after that?

[b] Do I have to unload this current mozilla, then open IE to load the old one? What happens if it doesn't recognize my home connection? (It didn't last night -- as you say, he gives IT guys a bad name -- and he had to do some other stuff today. I wouldn't know how.)

Basically, you're talking to someone who knows how to put gas in the car, shift gears, and adjust the speed. Everything else, I leave to the experts. I operate my computer the same way; HTML for italics, bold, and <a href is about my speed.

Sounds like a fail on your school IT guy's part.

A-freakin'-MEN! After all this, he tells me that new school policy is that people can no longer use their personal laptops, and he'll get me a school one. So if I can't use mine, (he disabled access to the school server), WHY THE HELL DID HE CHANGE IT?!?!? "Pissed" doesn't even begin to describe my reaction.
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compscilin

September 19 2009, 03:08:28 UTC 4 years ago

First and foremost, *customer service*, IT people. (sigh)

1) Stick with 3.5 and learn how to use it.
2) Right-click near the search bar and pick customize. Drag the parts you don't want into the *dialog box* that pops up then. (This is distinct from a popup window.)
3) From the top, they're the title bar, menu bar, navigation toolbar, bookmarks toolbar.

What the new location bar (aka address bar) does is search through your history. That is, you can start typing parts of the address and it'll bring up results. Is that what you're referring to?

I don't suppose you could provide a screenshot?

starwatcher307

September 19 2009, 03:34:15 UTC 4 years ago

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1) Stick with 3.5 and learn how to use it.

::whimper:: One of my fav parts of FF is the CTRL + or - to change font size. But it doesn't maintain. It used to be, when I read a post and clicked on 'comments', it would show in the size I had selected. Now it defaults to small, and I have to enlarge again. Any suggestions?

2) Right-click near the search bar and pick customize. Drag the parts you don't want into the *dialog box* that pops up then. (This is distinct from a popup window.)

Thank you; that worked.

3) From the top, they're the title bar, menu bar, navigation toolbar, bookmarks toolbar.

But I only have 3; you list 4. (Which is OK; I really don't want any more taking up my top space.)

What the new location bar (aka address bar) does is search through your history. That is, you can start typing parts of the address and it'll bring up results. Is that what you're referring to?

I don't 'start typing the address'. I use the dropdown arrow to select the address I want. But there're not all staying there. I loaded 15; it only shows 12. Is there a way to specify more?

I don't suppose you could provide a screenshot?

Only if you tell me how; I've never done that.
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compscilin

September 21 2009, 15:40:24 UTC 4 years ago

http://www.google.com/search?q=screenshot will have tutorials for making screenshots. Then upload it to an image host http://www.google.com/search?q=free+image+host and post it here.

You can do it!

starwatcher307

October 16 2009, 04:48:51 UTC 4 years ago

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Thanks; I'll save the screenshot tutorials for when I need them. But it turns out there's more going on than the new Firefox; tomorrow, I'm taking it to a repair guy who I know does excellent work. In other words, no need for you to try to talk me through something.

I appreciate the earlier help, and I apologize for such a late continuation; school paperwork landed on me with both feet.

I must say though, after living with this for almost a month, I'm definitely moving backward to 3.0, or earlier if I need to -- until I find a version that [a] maintains the font increase I've plugged in when I move to a new page in LJ (it used to do that), and [b] maintains the addys in the drop-down bar in the same place (it used to do that, too). I see no reason to "stick with" something that I find unsatisfactory. If we all did that, we'd be using IE and there'd be no Firefox! Maybe the next time around, they'll fix some of their 'improvements'.
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Mozilla ? o_O

turu

September 21 2009, 05:49:54 UTC 4 years ago

Just out of curiosity, but you are talking about Firefox on here, not about good old Mozilla internet suite, aren't you ?

I think referring the name "Mozilla" as a browser reminds most of people about that internet suite. It's a bit weird to hear "Mozilla" as a synonym for "Firefox" nowadays (even though it's still developed by the Mozilla Corporation)...

Anyway, if you still want to use Firefox2 in wherever you want, using portable version might be a good answer. Fortunately, portableapps.com still hosts latest version of Firefox2 portable, so grab it from there if you want;
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=151265&package_id=283201

If you are somehow talking about Mozilla internet suite (though never heard about it had version 3.5.x), then Seamonkey is your answer. Just go to seamonkey-project.org and grab latest 1.1.18.

Re: Mozilla ? o_O

starwatcher307

October 16 2009, 04:32:14 UTC 4 years ago

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Just out of curiosity, but you are talking about Firefox on here, not about good old Mozilla internet suite, aren't you?

Yes, that's how clueless I am; I thought Mozilla was the "official" name for Firefox.

Thanks for the addy. Turns out there's more wrong than I thought; I'm taking it to my computer guy tomorrow -- the one who's proved he actually knows what he's doing. I'll give the addy to him.

And, my apologies for such a tardy reply. School paperwork landed on me with both feet. There are not enough hours in a day.
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